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1 :D on Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:31 am

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51 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:26 pm

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T@D wrote:Almost every game designer started with the same tools..... A pencil and paper.


And imo, there is no difference between a job and a career anymore the way things are now. Here is the old difference...... A job is entry level.... anyone could get one, a career typically involved schooling. Now-a-days, you can turn a job into a career easier then before. You don't need the extensive schooling to work your way up, although it can be easier. There are, however, jobs that require schooling....but even those being called "careers" is up to the individual.

What it breaks down to is what ever you want to call your work. Typically, people that stick in jobs that are always the same discipline, call their jobs careers..... but that is still up to the person. I was in retail management for over 10 years, and I would never see it as a "career". The actual difference of what you choose to call it, is completely irrelevant.

Lies it is all about a tablet and PS Very Happy Just kidding. Although I really want to get a tablet to draw in Photoshop Razz

Also there really isn't a difference now. I started as a News Intern at The Signal and now I got a job making decent money. They expect me to stay there for a while. Not only that my buddy I went to school with got an internship at an IT place and they liked him so much they hired him, he is now making $30/hr.

52 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:36 pm

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T@D wrote:Almost every game designer started with the same tools..... A pencil and paper.


And imo, there is no difference between a job and a career anymore the way things are now. Here is the old difference...... A job is entry level.... anyone could get one, a career typically involved schooling. Now-a-days, you can turn a job into a career easier then before. You don't need the extensive schooling to work your way up, although it can be easier. There are, however, jobs that require schooling....but even those being called "careers" is up to the individual.

What it breaks down to is what ever you want to call your work. Typically, people that stick in jobs that are always the same discipline, call their jobs careers..... but that is still up to the person. I was in retail management for over 10 years, and I would never see it as a "career". The actual difference of what you choose to call it, is completely irrelevant.
the way i see it, a job is short term, and a career is something you do for the rest of your life. that's actually pretty accurate if you look at it on a base-level.


and @virt, the only reason i responded to your message in such a manner is because the first line of your post said:
"you are the biggest dumbass i've ever met"

which was completely unprovoked.

if you don't want to argue, don't insult people. simple as that.

53 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:59 pm

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Job: A post of employment; full-time or part-time position
Career: An occupation or profession, especially one requiring special training, followed as one's lifework


I think "career" is slightly more general, encompassing specific "job"s within it. E.g. one's engineering career may include them working at multiple places.


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54 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:36 pm

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virtuosity wrote:Oh no he has two arms in total.
Almost looks like he has another arm behind is right one, could just be an optical illusion caused by the lightning/electricity thing.


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55 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:00 pm

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Roach maybe because you said what I go to school for and do for a living is a waste of time... Have you thought of that?

56 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:43 pm

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He meant it as it would be a waste of time for him cuz he has no use for it cuz he's not gonna do graphic design..


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57 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:54 pm

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The thing is I never mentioned for him to do graphics?

Also re-read what he said. He never said he wouldn't study VC because it is useless to him he basically said to me that what I do is useless.

Either way I don't care just rather not be disrespected based on an opinion. Next time it happens I will do something about it. For now it is dropped.

58 Re: :D on Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:41 pm

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59 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:19 am

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Roachleader wrote:
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EARTH_QUAKE wrote:i dont really get x box that much.... sorry i know my fail.

QL is the only fps i've ever actually been good at :'(

you just haven't tried many other FPSes yet. practice makes perfect.

Also a waste of time.

i could easily call your GFXing a waste of time, because it's of no use to ME.
therefore "waste of time" is a matter of perspective for the most part.
Right there is what I'm talking about, Virt..

He never said it was a waste of time, he said he could call it that cuz it would be one for him. Just as video games are a waste of time for you in your eyes.. Even tho the careers I'm considering have nothing to do with video games, they're not a waste of time to me. Therefore, as Roach said, it's all a matter of perspective, same as "one man's trash is another man's treasure."


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60 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:01 am

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Anyone one wanna give me a "blow career"?


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61 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:32 am

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You guys are DB'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL a job is a job.... Gaming...is a hobby....ppl take it serious and enter tourneys... but..c'mon. you guys are beating a dead horse.


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62 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:21 am

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Gambling can also be considered a hobby...or a job, or a career.

Hell, people are making a living for themselves using Full Tilt Poker, which is both of the "hobbies" mentioned..


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63 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:35 am

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nodata wrote:"one man's trash is another man's treasure."
there's truly no better way to put it. thanks data.

64 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:56 pm

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roach, what i dont get is that you said virt's graphics are pointless to you, but if you are interested in game design surely graphics (of some sort) are relevent? even if just for stills and shit?


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65 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:26 pm

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Not always true. I see a lot of PS work that I think is shit Smile


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66 Re: :D on Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:36 pm

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tad, dont be difficult; where did i say "all ps work is important" Mad


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67 Re: :D on Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:59 am

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68 Re: :D on Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:34 am

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EARTH_QUAKE wrote:roach, what i dont get is that you said virt's graphics are pointless to you, but if you are interested in game design surely graphics (of some sort) are relevent? even if just for stills and shit?
yes, but i was trying to make a point, one person who finds something fun and useful, will always find another person who thinks what they're doing is pointless and boring.
hence the quote, "one man's trash is another man's treasure" and vice versa.

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